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Good morning. I upgraded my
membership on the site yesterday and am looking at booking on to the
introductory course on the Friday evenings in June. One of the days is slightly
awkward but I can work around it at a push. Just before I book on the course are
there any plans for a one day course in June?
We are hoping to run a one day course sometime
in May and maybe June but we do not know the details yet. I suggest you book onto Junes Friday course
and if one comes up before ask (just email me) to be moved to the new course. Hope that helps
Hello,
I joined LCC earlier this year, see below, and am getting club emails which is
great but there was nowhere that I saw to put information about my partner so
that he also gets emails and appears on the club list and can login to the
site. He's cc-ed
on this email, and has the same address as me. Is it possible to sign him up for emails too?
I have signed him up via our message board
page – See info page or link below. He
will need to click on the email to activate messages etc.
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/Message%20Board.html
As
a family member the lead person is supposed to forward information about
paddles to the rest of the family but we are finding more people are signing up
multiple email addresses etc.
Can anyone tell me a good cheap camp site we
can go , in the lakes area, or
I'd
recommend Waterside House Campsite. http://www.watersidefarm-campsite.co.uk/index.html Its on the back road
on Ullswater, and you can pitch damn near the waters
edge if your lucky.
Also
available Coniston
Old Hall Campsite on Coniston or Low
Wray Campsite on Windermere
For
other venues the club has used look at the trips page / tab. http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/Trips.html
Hi, looks like I have messed up on my member
login somehow, sorry!
Hope you can help
Your
account is still valid – you need to use exactly your username and password.
If
you have forgotten your password a new one can be emailed to you. See our help and advice page.
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/cgi-bin/oc/manage.cgi?a=lost
This
new password will get you into your account where you can change it for a more friendly one. If
this all fails get back to me and I can sort something out.
website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk
Silly
me ripped my cag seal on my watch – Anyone advise on
how to repair rip on a seal on a cag – can this be
done by yourself or is a professional job.
Although I see repair kits I wonder do they actually work and has anyone
successfully repaired one.
A wealth of replies on
how to mend a broken seal on a cag from temporary
measures with puncture repair kits, stretching over lemonade bottles – good
ideas.
For a long term repair so many people have
recommended the rubber man – (although sounds like a fetish retailer …lol)
He appears to be the most recommended by all.
We always use Chris Steele www.rubberman.co.uk
based in the Conwy valley.
I
am going to buy a dry bag, what sizes (they seem to come in litre size, eg 15l) fit in the sea kayak's?
20 litre should fit in most sea kayaks.
Sometimes you have to pack the bag inside the hatch and roll it down to seal it
if a big bag but still works. Most hatches are 24cm in diameter.
Hi, I have just registered and joined LCC.
I am an ageing returner to the sport and have
recently acquired a grp cross between a sit-on-top
and a waveski which is a little lighter and more agile
than the typical sit-on-top but not an extreme rocker, sharp railed ski.
Ultimately I would like to go for a “proper” surf kayak such as a Mega but I’ve
never really mastered the art of rolling which is why I currently favour the
ski. I am looking just at recreational paddling to get some fresh air and try
to regain some level of fitness but I do like playing in waves, albeit usually
the smaller type normally on Anglesey. My question is – Is a surf kayak really
appropriate for me or would I be better off with just a whitewater/river
running boat. My only concern with this is that at 90kg I would have to go for
a fairly large boat where the surf kayaks seem to carry a bit more volume for
their length. I would like something that would be easier for me to master
rolling in the short term but I don’t want to end up swapping boats in quick
succession.
Any help and advice would be gratefully
received. Thanks
Interesting question so I
can only give a view. A radical surf
kayak is very narrow, tippy and difficult to roll, especially at 90kg. If you were very good and wanted to enter
competitions it might be right for you.
Right now I would say no.
I
used to do a lot of surfing on a wave ski, indeed I still have it but have been
thinking of selling it for 3 years now but have just not got around to it. I spend all my time in the surf in a small, shortish, flat bottomed plastic kayak. This is much warmer than the ski, quite
manoeuvrable and as it still has some length so can get out through the surf or
pick up less steep waves.
You
would be best to try some of the boats at the club before trying to get a kayak
for yourself. This weeks
pool session is fully booked already but next Thursdays bookings will open
straight after this weeks session at the pool – this would be ideal for you to
learn to roll. Nb
we are very overcrowded so get ready to book a session. Alternatively you can attend our club
sessions at the docks to paddle and get used to kayaks or indeed go on any
surfing sessions when they are advertised.
This
is my current kayak – S8 large volume but it is now dated and I have broken 2
with spits on rivers over the past two years.
I am looking at the new Loki from Pyranha when it launches in December
but it will be expensive.
I have recently become a member of the
Several members do store their own boats on our racks at the docks provided that there is space. They are secured using our cables and locks on the understanding that the boat could be used during a club session by the club if you are not there.
You are able to take the boat at any time and would be trusted with the code for the shed and locks.
If this is acceptable then please speak to Keith during a club session.
What
is the chance of booking myself and wife in for the next introductory course
and how do we go about it ? Everything is done online to reduce administration
to keep costs down etc. Once you have
joined as a member your username and password will allow you to see all of the website and can book courses, see events and
members details etc.
Membership is £15 a year for a family
The introductory course is £10 each for
registration. This ensures people are
committed and turn up for all 4 sessions to get the best introduction to the
club. (We do not charge for coaching or
borrowing our equipment) You will then be able to / be confident enough to join
us on a club night – Tuesdays and Thursdays and take a kayak from the rack and
join in with the paddling.
Go to the member’s page / tab or click the link
below for details of courses.
Register
for a beginners or coaching course 
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I
joined the club last month and I am beginner to Canoeing what’s the best way to
get started?
If you are a novice probably the best way to start would be to join one
of our introductory courses (May to October) or come to the pool sessions in
winter. (Please see the calendar or venues pages for details). The pool
has three more weeks to run and unfortunately the beginner’s course in May is
full but we are taking bookings for the one in June.
All details via the website http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/
Or direct links below:
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/Want%20to%20Start.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/Calendar/index.html
We are also running some come and try it sessions
at the
Friday 29th April
Come-And-Try-It sessions. Open to the public. Free of charge. Book at slipway 1300 and 1500. Changing facilities in the marina.
Saturday 30th April
Come-And-Try-It sessions. Open to the public. Free of charge. Book at slipway 1300 and 1500. Changing facilities in the marina.
Monday 2nd May
Come-And-Try-It sessions. Open to the public. Free of charge. Book at slipway 1300 and 1500. Changing facilities in the marina.
My son and I took part in the introductory sessions last Summer and now have our own boats.
I was wondering
if we are OK to access the dock this week via the slipway and get on the water
at the top end of the dock (adjacent to the car park before you arrive at the
club house & where we practised rolls last year) as we do not
have an access card to the club's area next to the sailing club
? Any advice would be welcome.
Hi,
Access to the Docks is via a group only. You are not allowed to just turn up and paddle. (This is a British Waterways
requirement)
However, you are more than welcome to get on
via the slipway during a club paddle or session (ie
Currently Sunday mornings 10:00am or Thursdays polo training at 6:30pm – please
check if we are going down as not always the case) Also every Tuesday and
Thursday when we start again fully in May.
In addition you may look out for planned
sessions at the docks via our calendar (or try to persuade a more experienced
club member to coordinate a club session. ie we need the name of coordinator / person
responsible and to invite other club members via email group or calendar as
this then makes it a club session.
Hope this helps
Please see clubs risk assessment for use of the docks………..
I am just wondering what date does the dock
sessions start again in summer as this weather is lovely and i want to get on water in my boat soon, thanks
We are down most
Sundays from 10.00am
Tuesday and
Thursday starts fully in May (see Calendar)
Some are
running sessions on Tuesday evenings at
We may
start Tuesdays again in April but watch the calendar for this.
Hi, I
bought a membership for my 13 year old son yesterday, with a view to him
undertaking a 4 week beginners course, hopefully in
May as he would very much like to give canoeing a go. He would very much like to join and undertake
the activity with a friend as he is quite anxious about coming along on his own
and not knowing any one. I
I've read the rules on under 16 year olds and my question
is please that if his friend also joins as a member, he is 14 years old and
then they book on the same beginners course, is it ok if just one of the parent
/s of the boys attends with them both please? Many thanks in advance.
Yes of
course. We are very happy for parents to work together to supervise their
children as long as there is someone in “loco parentis” who is responsible for
all children in their care. We have many families in the club; some with
parents who paddle and some who do not.
I have a SOT (Sit on Top) kayak. I am very new to
kayaking. The question I have is, when I am changing from one side to the other
after a stroke, should the paddle blades be dribbling water all over my legs
and feet, or am I doing something wrong?
Thank you very much
for your time and information.
Although
you can expect some splash or mild dripping while on a sit on top this should
not be excessive or cause you any discomfort.
Two
possible causes:
Your paddle
– some of the cheaper blades may retain water when lifted during your stroke.
Fluting or rubber drip rings (designed to prevent drips) may make this
worse. More expensive paddles are sleek and retain little water. If
your paddle has rubber drip rings try moving them to the middle of the shaft
and cutting them off if this makes it better.
Your stroke
– the blade should not cross the centre line of the kayak, ie
any drips should fall into the water and not onto your legs. Body
rotation and a straight top arm should be in evidence. We do have online
videos to shown forward paddling etc on our website – you need to be a member
to view them.
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However,
the best way to improve your paddling is to paddle with others. BCU
coaches could then give you advice and correct any errors. We run many
courses each year or have club sessions in Liverpool Docks on Tuesdays and
Thursdays. Other centres also offer commercial courses (
Hope this
helps
I am interested in joining your club but I
wear glasses, is that a problem? Regards 
We have many members who wear glasses (and sun glasses in summer). You will
need to make sure they are attached as they will be expensive to replace etc.
although there is little chance you will capsize most of the time. There are
several methods that people use.
1/ piece of string
2/ http://www.croakies.com/
sports type strap
3/ For white water paddling water on the lens is the
main problem so most will wear contacts for very rough water.
I hope this helps.
Hi, I was just wondering if there are any
facilities at the dock to store my Kayak? I'm not
going to have a car from next month as i'm starting
at uni and cant afford to
run it but would still like to have a way to use my Kayak.
Yes we have four racks for club boats in the secure area. You will need to
purchase a swipe card to access the
area and will need to know the code for the shed. Many club members store their
boats here but they are locked on along with the clubs kayaks and canoes so the stipulation is that they may be used by members during
club sessions if you are not using it first. This is not a problem
for most and in reality personal kayaks are seldom used in this way.
Contact the website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk if you need
more information
Hi all am looking to start paddling with my
family, so am looking for 3 kayaks to buy as cheep as possible as cash is tight
at the moment, i have been looking around at the
different types of kayaks available and am interested in a touring kayak, but
as a starter am willing to buy any type just to start with for this year. thanks all and looking forward to joining you all some day.
Why don't you use the club boats for a while until you know exactly what you want. These are currently at the pool until they move to the
docks in May for the outdoor summer sessions. They are free to use during club
sessions. The best way to start is by coming down to the pool sessions at the
Kingsway Pool on a Thursday. We have lots of boats and coaches to help you get
started. Check the venues
pages for details / maps.
In May we intend to run our successful introductory courses again, watch the calendar / newsletter for announcements. If you do not need introductory lessons you can just attend our club sessions on a Tuesday or Thursday evening from 6:30.
hi all, wondering if anyone can suggest a
handy canal put-in with parking in Wirral or Chester, as I’d like to take my
kids on a safe starter run (they know how to paddle, just lack practice.) your
advice would be much appreciated. Cheers.
Try these locations, good parking and easy water – links are from the trips
pages of the website.
River Dee at Chester – Sandy Lane Car Park
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/Playboating/Chester%20Weir%20-%20Map1.html
Bridgewater canal - Runcorn
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/members/Club%20Trips/Bridgewater%20Canal%20-%20Runcorn/index.html
River Weaver Canal – Runcorn / M56
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/members/Club%20Trips/River%20Weaver%20Navigation%20-%20Runcorn%20Rowing%20Club/index.html
Is it necessary to do a starter kayaking course
before joining your club? I wish to learn the relevant skills with the view to
doing some coastal/sea kayaking in the future. I recently retired and have the
time and some energy left. Thanks.
It is recommended to do a starter course during the summer when we run them -
next is due in May when we start back outside. However, during the winter many
people start by coming to the pool in
Hi, I am 15 years old and paddle with peninsula
canoe club on the Wirral. I am looking for more white water trips and am
particularly interested in freestyle . I have paddled
the tweryern and at JJs
regularly also at
Hi, there is the junior freestyle circuit which runs each year, you may already
been involved in this. Unfortunately their website seems to have changed to
bogie boards. Try the main freestyle site for updated links.
http://www.gbfreestylekayak.com/?page=gettingstarted
We do run a lot of river trips each year
and often go surfing or to Stanley Embankment. We have several members who
paddle freestyle (two French lads (Martin and Bertrand) who were part of the
French circuit before moving here).
You are welcome to paddle on our trips /
with us but as you are under 18 will need to be supervised by a parent or
guardian. Each year we do paddle in the French Alps and again if your parents
were not attending you would need someone over 18 to act in `loco parentis`. We
have regularly done this in the past.
Our membership fees are incredibly low as
we have few running costs.
I hope this helps.
My son and I recently joined the club. We are
both eager to start kayaking but are unable to get to the pool sessions. Is it
a requirement to do this before we can go on any of the paddle outings e mailed
by club members. Regards
There is no requirement but at this time
of the year (January) you would need to be fairly experienced (probably with
you own equipment) as even a paddle on a canal would be very cold and people
would be moving fairly quickly to keep to warm.
If you are beginners you would be best to
sign up in May to the beginner course(s) at the docks on Tuesdays / Thursdays
and possibly at weekends. The weather is far warmer then and it would be a
better introduction. Watch the emails and website for more information.
Hi, my name is xxxx
and I´m 22. I never tried canoeing before, but I
would really like to do it. Is there any possibility to have a try it session
in the next time? I´m looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Hi, we did run two come and try it
sessions last year as part of a BCU initiative. They were in May and June.
Unfortunately there are none planned in the near future.
We are a large and active club with over
500 members. Membership is extremely good value at £10 per person per year. If
you are keen on starting canoeing and want to receive coaching and help we do
run sessions at the Kingsway pool in
If you just want to try canoeing on a one
off basis then either Merseyport or Crosby Watersports centres are a good place to start. If you then
want to take the sport further you may like to join one of the clubs in the
region.
Hi, i'm looking
at starting up my canoe interest and thought it best to join a local club. if possible could you give me some information about your
club and ways in which to join.
Liverpool Canoe Club would welcome you as
a member. We are a very active club run by its members to promote all kinds of paddling.
Consequently our costs are minimal, membership fees
cover these costs and is only £10 per year. All details are available via the
website and you can join online (this keeps our costs down). Just click the
join tab / page at www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk
We paddle from our base at Liverpool
Marina (Near Albert Dock and Merseysport) throughout
the year. We have a variety of club boats on our racks and gear in our shed.
While most of the GP boats have been moved to our pool session for the winter
there are still plenty of boats available to use during club sessions – all
totally free of charge and on a first come basis. These boats are available for
loan on club trips for a small contribution for wear and tear.
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/members/full_member/Equipment/equipment.htm
We paddle most weekends – see our calendar
for trip details. During the summer we paddle on most evenings (Mon, Tues, Wed
and Thurs) but the main club evenings at the docks are Tuesday and Thursdays.
(Tuesdays from 6:30pm currently until it gets too cold – please bring a torch.
Pool session in
All venue information and maps are again
available from the site – just click the venues tab / page
Hope this helps, See you on the water
Some of you were talking to me at a few pool
sessions about what some boaters call the dark art of rolling and what
resources are out there on the world wide web and in
books. Dave Rider
There are many types of rolls out there
some very complicated with only a limited use such as the tornado roll and the
other more common rolls such as the screw roll and mine and many other coaches
favourite the C to C roll. It works in every scenario and if it is done
properly it is arguably the safest and most efficient roll. There are many
videos of the net, unfortunately there are many bad
examples of this roll. But here are the ones I have used in teaching.
Videos
This 1st video in my opinion is one of the
best on the net. It clearly shows the basic principles behind what is involved
in what is require to safely do the roll. PS don't
worry when you say "I'm no way as flexible as that woman". I
guarantee everyone says and they can all do the roll!
This is one of the latest rolling videos
to enter the web. Made by some paddlers at
This last video is another American "
Books
The old fashioned form of the book hasn't
been surpassed yet by the internet, especially in terms of rolling resources.
This book is often termed the "Bible" of rolling resources as it is
easy to use and is well worth the price! The first batch of
pages are available free on Google books it even shows a very useful
flow diagram.
The second book I haven't actually read
but does come recommended to me from other coaches.
Rolling-Kayak-Ken-Whiting
I hope this helps
I'm looking to join the canoe club. I have
some basic experience in both kayak and canoe paddling but haven't done any
assessments. I see there is a 1 star
assessment this month, is it possible to join and take this assessment without doing the Intro Course for New
Members? If so, do you choose which night to attend the assessment (16th or
23rd) or do you have to attend both.
Yes, if you have some experience you do
not need to do the introductory course first, you can either come down on club
nights to paddle with the clubs boats and equipment (first come first served)
or indeed put your name down for a coaching course. I will add your name to the
list for the one star assessment course (your need to attend both evening to
ensure you complete all the elements of the award). Please see the syllabuses
and notes available via the coaching page or calendar.
Please ensure you join online before the
course so that you can join us.
I was wondering what the protocol was for
organising trips? I`m looking to take some friends
down the Dee, Corwen to horseshoe falls, I thought
about opening it up to others but wasn't sure of the club rules, could you tell
me? Also, I`m
potentially bringing 2 new member tomorrow, do they need to register first or
can they try before they buy? Many Thanks
If your running a
trip and are happy to open it up please use the googlegroup
to advertise to other members. Please make it clear that there will be no coach
cover and participants need to be confident of their ability to cope with the
trip. You will probably need a few days notice to get any replies. At least 5
days notice seems to work best.
As it's only £5 to join for a year (half
of merseysports hourly fee!) they should be a full
member first. This ensures that we have all their emergency details etc. If
they are not sure that they want to join a club they should try a taster
session at Merseyport or Crosby. watersports centre.
Hi there, Do you have any taster sessions for
canoeing or kayaking? My son Dylan will be 7 in October and would like to give
the sport a try. Where about in
Hi, 7 is a little young to start
although we do have families that paddle and paddling adults often bring and
supervise their young children.
We are really a canoe club for committed
paddlers or those that have tasted the sport and are keen to learn. We are
based in the dock by
Hi, I have recently joined the club with a
family membership and I was wondering when it would be possible for us to get
involved? Cheers
Hi, You should have received a
welcome email detailing information on how to paddle with the club. Your
password will allow you to explore all of our site. If
you and your family are total beginners then an introductory course would be
best – the next one starts in September, Monday evening from 6:30pm (see our
calendar) – 8 booked onto the course at the moment, let me know the names and
ages of any of your family who wish to attend all four sessions.
If you have paddled before then you could
just come down to any of our sessions – Tuesdays and Thursdays at the
Extract from welcome email
If you are a novice then the best way to start would be to join one of our
introductory courses which start on the first Monday of every month in the
summer and continue for the following Mondays of that month (see the calendar
for details and contact the coordinator for a place)
From October to April we use the Kingsway
pool in
As you become more experienced you may
wish to attend some of our trips. Please visit the venues pages or trips page
to find out more. All club activities are published on the website. We also
have various trips on a Wednesday Evening (Chester Weir,
Hi, I would like to get involved in the canoe
club with my 2 daughters. I was wondering how much we have to pay per lesson
and do we need an appointment or do we just turn up. Thanks
All lessons / sessions are free for
members. However, if you are novices and have absolutely no experience of
kayaking you will need to book onto a beginners introductory course. These run
each month of the summer (normally for the first 4 Mondays from 6:30pm). The
only exception is there is no course for August as most of the coaches are away
on expeditions abroad. Once you have joined (£7.50 per year for a family) you
have full access to the whole site and can book / register for the introductory
course - this is totally free and we provide boats (opens and kayaks), paddles,
buoyancy aids and helmets if required.
In addition we run monthly talks on a
subject related to paddlesport, you also receive a monthly newsletter and have access to
our online canoeing handbook and a wealth of information about the sport. As
you gain experience you are able to join our many weekends and trips away.
Again we have a loan system in place if you need to borrow boats and equipment.
I hope this helps
Hi there, We were hoping to come along to the
kayaking tonight at 19:00.....(2 people) As we are first timers is this the
best time to go - if so do we need to register online first? Many thanks.
You would need to be members first and if
you are beginners will need to join a beginner’s course before joining in with
the club night sessions on a Tuesday and Thursday. There is one running in July
for 3 weeks but this is currently over subscribed with 18 (needs 3 groups). You
could add your name to the waiting list or sign up for the one in September.
All club sessions start at 6:30pm with gates locked before 7:00pm with most on
the water by 6:45pm. We then split into groups to paddle with more experienced
paddlers or club coaches as appropriate.
Hi, I was
wondering if anyone could recommend a good inflatable kayak as i am on a limited budget and have no roof 
rack and i want to give canoeing a try. Thanks
I have owned a Sevylor
Tahiti for about 4 yrs and it is a very good starter inflatable. I have done 8
mile trips in it on canals and lakes, even out in sea surf and it will take 2
people and a good load carrier too. It's a lot better made than some cheaper
beach toy boats, and you can get them at Outdoor World in
Article here:
http://www.shorebase.co.uk/boating/canoes/k79/k79.asp
There are better boats made by Stearns and
Gumotex, but they are a LOT more expensive
Decathlon in
I have joined the club but do not seem to get
any of the googlegroup emails?
Hi, I am sorry that something has
gone wrong. You should have been added automatically. I will add the email
address you have just used to add you manually to the googlegroup
after first checking your membership status. More information on how the googlegroup works........
Email requests to be added to the group to
website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk
I am a new member with very little recent
experience in a kayak although I did a fair bit 35 years ago. I have been to
Pyranha today to have a look around before buying a Kayak. However when I asked
the staff about paddling on the
Officially you need a British
Waterways licence to paddle on any canal. These are included if you join the
BCU as a member (about £37 a year) or direct from British Waterways.
However, in practice you will never be
asked for one if you put on locally so you should really just get on and
paddle, keeping clear of any boats if they are moving or any fishermen etc. We
often paddle on local canals as a club and have never been asked for a license.
The club uses the Liverpool Docks as home
waters - we do pay a license for this to British Waterways but as a member you
would be welcome at any of our sessions (formal and informal).
Hi, I was wondering if you could offer me
some advice about getting into sea kayaking. My boyfriend and I are hoping to
take up sea kayaking. We have been out with a friend who is a coach a few times
for some taster sessions and we have been to
We are looking for a club to join where we
can undertake some training towards obtaining the BCU star awards and where we
can just go paddling on an evening or weekend. We are interested in doing the 2
star award and eventually the three star award. Could
you let me know if this is possible for us to do at Liverpool Canoe Club and
who the best person is for us to chat to about joining you? Thank you very
much, Best Wishes,
Hi, As you may have noticed we are
a very active sea kayaking club but also have other sections (general Coaching,
polo, white water, surf etc)
Once you are a member you are able to
attend any of our club sessions Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina
and Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
or trips further afield depending upon your experience. However, you may be
best joining our introductory course which starts on the first Tuesday of every
month (runs for 4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment is available on a first
come basis. If you are more experienced you could start at any session.
Our coaches offer courses and assessment -
see our calendar for current courses (BCU paddle start, BCU 1, 2 and 3 star are
on offer this summer) There is no charge for any of our coaching as the club is
run by members for its members but there are fees payable direct to the
governing body (BCU) to obtain certificates when you pass awards.
All details
via the website http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/
Or direct links below:
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/Want%20to%20Start.html
Any of our experienced paddlers would be
willing to give you advice, just come and have a coffee or drink with us after
each paddling session at the marina bar at the yacht club.
Hello, I went along to Kingsway Leisure Centre last night hoping
to get involved in your club night. Clearly this was a temporary session as I
found out that it had ended some weeks ago. I just wondered if you would be
returning to
Hi, We paddle every
Thursday during the winter (October to May) at the Kingsway Centre but at
Hi, Can you tell me whether my 10 year old is old enough to
paddle with you, he has two older brothers who have been down to the dock and
tried it and would like to join the club. He is very comfortable on water, and
has been on sailing boats since he was very young. he
is capable of operating a tender with outboard on his own (been doing it since
he was 6) I spoke to Dom and he suggested I email you because he was not sure
what the Club had decided was to be the minimum age. I work on a Sail training
boat and fully understand the difficulties of accepting
juniors and that there has to be a minimum age. Regards
Hi, We have no
minimum age set as we are a family friendly club. As long as he paddles in a
group with a coach or experienced paddler there is no problem and provided that
we have a suitable buoyancy aid that fits well (or you may have your own).
Parents or a similar adult MUST be present and contactable at all times (ie within the club or indeed on the water paddling). We
have several families with children as young as 8 who paddle our junior boats.
Everyone is welcome.
I have just joined the club and wonder what to do as a novice,
do you have beginner lessons for people like me if so when and where is the
next beginners lesson? If not do I start. Learning on
my own and then join you, sorry just a bit confused at where to begin at the
moment any advice would be appreciated.
Once you are a member you are able to attend
any of our club sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina and
Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
However, you may be best joining our introductory course which starts on the
first Tuesday of every month (runs for 4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment
is available on a first come basis. Please contact the coordinator for a place.
For further information try our HELP
section on the site for Canoeing Q & A
Hi. I am looking to get back into kayaking after quite a long
absence. I used to paddle a bit on lakes and flat water when I was a child. I
was wondering how to go about getting back into the sport. Can I just attend a meet ? If so, which days are the meets currently held, and where ? I would like to also try to progress and achieve
some sort of proficiency awards, such as the BCU star system. Do you guys offer
this to members, and is there an additional charge for the training and BCU testing ? Thanks,
Hi , Sorry but I have been away on a club expedition to
the islands off NW
1/ Once you are a member you are able to
attend any of our club sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina
and Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
However, you may be best joining our
introductory course which starts on the first Tuesday of every month (runs for
4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment is available on a first come basis.
2/ Our coaches offer courses and
assessment - see our calendar for current courses (BCU paddle start, BCU 1, 2
and 3 star are on offer this summer) There is no charge for any of our coaching
as the club is run by members for its members but there are fees payable direct
to the governing body (BCU) to obtain certificates when you pass awards.
Hi, Is the beginner's night still on
this evening? Was thinking it may be called of because of the rain. Thanks
Hi ,Sorry but I have been away on a club expedition to the
islands off NW
I wish to take up sea kayaking as a hobby and would desire
advice and if possible training. I am 68 but v fit and and
an excellent swimmer. I am a complete newbie!! Can you please contact me with
any help you may have... Best wishes
Hi, As you may
have noticed we are a very active sea kayaking club but also have other sections
(general Coaching, polo, white water, surf etc)
We have beginner sessions starting every
month for the first three Tuesdays based at the Sailing Club / Yacht Marina at
Liverpool Docks. We have all the boats and equipment there and joining is
extremely good value.
Membership is extremely good value at
£10.00 per person or £15.00 for a family. You can join online and turn up at
any of our beginners sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays at the same venue.) Here you
will be allocated a coach and group for the evening. Probably the best way to
start would be to join our introductory lessons which start on the first
Tuesday of every month and continue for the following Tuesdays of that month
(see the calendar for details)
All details via the website http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/
Or direct links below:
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/Want%20to%20Start.html
Hi there, Im a complete novice but
would be interested in joining and learning more. I see you state the
membership fee for an adult is £10.00. Could you confirm is this for annual
membership please? Also, is they an extra charge on
top of this to take part in the weekly club session down in the docks. I
understand they is a charge for the pool during the winter, Many
thanks
Yes our yearly membership fee is really
£10. There are no other costs required but club boats are on a first come basis
on Tuesday and Thursdays. If you attend the docks sessions regularly you may
wish to purchase an electronic swipe card to give you easier access to our
equipment, the changing rooms and pontoons. This is a
My friend and I are planning a kayak run down the
I assume you mean the
Access at Liverpool Dock is difficult but
there are two sets of steps and a slipway opposite
Be careful, as the tides from Runcorn down
are very strong and can produce steep and difficult seas. With wind against
tide, a confused, steep sea develops. The major hazard is being swept under
piers or landing jetties – keep clear by along way as tide runs at 6+ knots on
springs.
There are several maps etc on our trips
pages but you will need to register for our free, web only membership to view
these.
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/members/Events/
Can you take me off your mailing list.
How to unsubscribe yourself from LCC Google group We do not actually have a mailing list but when you
joined you were automatically added to our googlegroup to receive emails about club activities. Every
email contains details on how to unsubscribe yourself
from the group. You are always in full control, indeed, if you wish to delete
all your membership details you can at anytime by loggin
in to your account via the website and selecting delete your club account and
all details.
To unsubscribe from the googlegroup, just send an email to LiverpoolCC+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
To log into your account:
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/cgi-bin/oc/manage.cgi
With the club going to paid membership does this mean I can`t go on any trips etc? To give coordinators and coaches some degree of
protection paid / full club members are covered by our BCU 3rd party liability
insurance. It is only £10 a year to convert to full membership, incredibly good
value. Click here for more information on how to do this......
However, if you have your own insurance
and the coordinator is happy you are more than welcome to join us on the
occasional trip. If you are paddling more than occasionally you should really be
a full member. I hope this helps.
I have forgotten or Lost my Password
for the site. Can it be renewed or reset? To retrieve your password click
here......... you will need to enter your email address OR your username
and your login details will be emailed to you shortly.
Question on the CRB checks for BCU
Coaches.
1/ My last one relates to another canoe club, the other one I have is from
December 2005 for the Scout Association - do the Liverpool CC coaches need to
get a new one for LCC through Dave R? 2/ Do all coaches need to do the online
child protection module or is it just a "good to have"?
My understanding is that:
1/ All BCU coaches have to do one CRB check every three years via the BCU for
all / any canoe club they work with. It is rumoured that a new agency may tie
all CRB checks together eventually but at moment you need one for every
different body you work with. Ie BCU, scouts,
Education Authority etc
2/ Online module is useful but not
essential??? ie it is not a
requirement (yet) to valid coaching qualification
Hi I am looking in to renting a kayak for a few hours a week, do
you offer renting and if not do you know where I can?
Sorry Michael, We do not rent out any
canoes or kayaks. Our fleet is for use by members during club nights (Thursday
at the pool in winter and Tuesday and Thursdays at the dock in the summer). You
would be welcome to join the club and use our boats but this would be under the
supervision of club coaches. Most other clubs and centres in the region operate
in the same way. However, Brookbank canoes in
Can anyone recommend somewhere that does replacment
latex neck/wrist seals for a dry cag?
I always use Rubberman
in
http://www.rubberman.co.uk/home.html
I have a little experience of paddling in both an open canoe and
a kayak and hold a one star in kayaking that I gained a couple of years ago. I
am looking to join a club where I would be able to train regularly to improve
my standard and to increase my opportunities for getting out and about on the
water, as well as hopefully getting to meet people with similar interests!!
Please could you let me know how I join the Liverpool Club, where and when your
sessions are that a sort-of beginner would be able to attend and how much it
costs for membership, equipment hire (as I have none of my own) and session
fees etc.
Joining is easy – just click the join tab
on the website and join online. Remember to click on the email to verify it and
follow the instructions. Membership fees are negligible as the members run the
club for its members – only £5 per year.
We have a pool session in
Once you gain experience and have access
to your own equipment we paddle every Wednesday throughout the summer at
different spots (Leeds-Liverpool canal,
Hope to see you at the pool or in the docks
soon.
If you really can`t
join online then I have attached our membership form but you will need Adobe
reader to print it (Most computers have it already as its free software)
I looked on your website at the calendar and was also just wondering
whether it would be possible to do the Sunday trip if you don't have your own
Kayak? Also the grading, is that a reference to the river or ability?
Hi, Club boats and equipment are free to
use at club venues (the pool and 
Full club members only
The grading for river trips applies to the
grade of water. Grade 1 is moving water with little hazards.
I'm keen to join and, in the first instance, learn capsize drill
etc. Can I come to one of the scheduled sessions at Widnes Leisure Centre
(having paid the membership fee) or do I have to wait until May for the Come
and Try It session (I've done bits of canoeing over the years)?
We welcome new paddlers. The best session
during the winter to make contact is the pool session on Thursdays. It is an 8
lane pool and we have a number of boats and paddles etc available. It is on a
first come first served basis on the night and if we exceed 24 people on the
water we ask for members to pair up and share the session.
Most wear swimwear and a
t-shirt or similar. I collect
the pool fees in the canteen in the main door and immediately on the left from
8:30pm We have 4 or five coaches on the night to help
you get started.
Pool fees are: 1hr - £3.50
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
PS Membership is really excellent value at
only £10 per year (£5 if under 18)
Hiya, i am interested in joining the club.
I would like to join the group, i am a beginer, but would enjoy improving and going on trips.
Please could you tell me where are you based? How often do you do day trips or
weekend trips? How much is membership?
We are based at the Kingsway
pool in
If you look at the calendar on the main
page or click the calendar tab you can see all our trips. Last summer we ran a
trip on every Wednesday night at local venues (Last year it was Tuesdays but
moves to Wednesdays this year)
We ran lots of trips at the weekends, on
average at least two every weekend. For instance last Sunday a group paddled to
All information can be found via the
website. We also issue a monthly newsletter (The latest newsletter is
attached). All members are also added to the google
email group to send and receive the latest trips and info about the club.
Membership fees are extremely low as we
only aim to cover our costs. Adult £10 per year. The
only other costs are pool hire fees of £3.50 per session at the
You can join online via the website and
pay securely via a card by clicking the join tab or the link below.
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
Hope to see you on the water soon.
I registered as an associate member last year. Do I have to
upgrade to keep my membership?
Our membership structure covers the
relatively small costs involved with running the club (BCU affiliation,
insurance, dock fees etc). You can now choose to upgrade your associate
membership (if you have not already done so) to a Full Membership by following
the example by clicking here… and paying safely online with a card. This is
also available from the membership tab of the website.
Alternatively, if you do not intend to
take advantage of a full membership, you can remain an associate member and
keep in touch with the club via newsletters, the website and club related
emails from our googlemail system. However to paddle
with us or to have access to our members (and coordinators) contact details you
will need to upgrade to a full membership.
If you have any comments or need help with
the change-over please contact us: website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk
Hi i did a 2 star kayak award when i was in the scouts about 10 years ago now but havent done any paddling since then. I was looking to get
back into it but as you can imagine i cant really remember any thing. I was wondering if you could
tell me the best way to or if you know of any beginner session around
We start introductory sessions after
Easter. The first course starts on the first Tuesday in May (6:30 till dark)
see our calendar for details.
We also have pool sessions at the Kingsway
pool in
Alternatively, Merseysport
offer sessions for beginners and improvers http://www.merseysport.org.uk/
What types of Membership do you offer?
For more information click our Join page....
Is it possible to kayak from coast to coast (hull to
The Liverpool canal goes to
UK
Canal map 1.2Mb
http://www.canaljunction.com/canal/leeds_liverpool.htm
L & Lpool
canal runs into northern end of
However, when the canal starts to descend,
(at
A word of caution. A lot of effort and expense is being put into
revitalising and upgrading the canal into Liverpool but as with all major
industrialised cities we have run-down areas with social problems and there can
be problems with vandalism, yobs etc on the Litherland
and
Otherwise if you just want to do a' coast
to coast' trip you could take the Rufford branch off
the L & Lpl. just before Burscough.
The branch is 7 miles long, (6 locks) with 4 almost at the start. It runs
through fertile farmland to the Ribble estuary at
Tarleton where it locks down into the river. Burscough
is 24 miles from the
Is there any problem with using the bow seat as the stern seat
when I paddle alone? Using the bow seat gives the canoe a better trim. The
other alternative is to place ballast in the bow. I weigh in at 240. see the problem when I am way back in the stern seat?
No, it is common practise to use the bow
seat when paddling solo (boat hull should be symmetrical). As you progress you
may try a kneeling position near the central thwart to gain even better trim.
My 10yr old son and I recently passed a one star Kayak course;
we would both like to continue to improve over the winter period. We live about
15 minutes from Speke and are both interested in your pool sessions on a
Wednesday night. If we joined and attended your pool lessons, would we be in
the same class at the same time, and at which level? Our instructor classed us
as good one star paddles?
We do not run formal classes - we are a
kayaking club and individuals book an hour of pool time in which to practice
their skills. Coaches are available both in the water and around the sides to advise, help and coach. The sessions are less formal and
more club orientated and allow club members to
progress as quickly as possible. Both you and your son will / could be on the
water at the same time.
If you are in any doubt as to our
structure please pop down and either chat to us or watch from the viewing
gallery. Please note that we are a very large club (250 members) but do strive
to treat people as individuals and we try to give newcomers the time /
information that they need. However, please bear with us as the first week is
likely to be very busy and hectic
Where is the nearest kayak shop?
Try our website `For sale` page. Kayaks
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Other good shops include: http://www.paddleworks.co.uk/ in
Llangollen and http://www.brookbankcanoes.co.uk/
in
I am an 44 year old officer within the
Boys Brigade organisation, have paddled on an off since I was around 10 years
old. I've had no formal canoe training (though, class myself an
reasonably proficient and can role) and would like to work for coach
certificates. Is this something that LCC can help me with or can you suggest
another organisation that would be better suited?
We currently have 16 club members working
towards their Level 1 / 2 coaching award. The club regularly runs coaching
sessions where trainee coaches work alongside
established coaches to gain experience and log the hours required before
assessment. We are planning to run a L2 coach training course in April with an
assessment at the end of the summer. Last September we ran a course for the
canoe safety test and will run a 3 star assessment before the L2 training
course in April. We currently have a pool session at Speke pool, 7-10pm. Why
not come down and introduce yourself or if you have joined the club (joining
forms from www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk
- Membership for the year costs £5-£15) why not have a go.
Hi, "Re:If
you would like to attend a course Level 2 Training (Kayak) BCU NW Region
COACHING SCHEME 10/11 September"
Just a few quick questions:
1. where will this course be held?
2. how much will it cost to LCC members?
3. what if people are strong paddlers but need to take
3* first?
It would be advisable to contact the
organiser direct to find out the exact location and details. Courses are cancelled
if there is not enough interest! It will be held in the
Discussion is under way re:subsidising LCC members
undertaking coaching courses. I will try and clarify how much at the next
coaching meeting on the 11th Aug (Why not come along as you are a potential
coach). If there is enough interest the club could hold its own L1 / L2
courses.
3* and CST etc can be assessed during
normal club evenings. Just ask to be assessed by myself or any coach with
assessor status.
How to become a Level 1 or 2 Coach
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LEVEL
2 COACH (Pre-requisites for 2 day training / 1 day assessment) |
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Be
16 for the Training Course or 18 years old for assessment |
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I have recently returned from a short trip in the Scottish
highlands, and among the group of us, the idea of canoeing the Caledonian Canal
came up - this looked like it should be both a memorable and enjoyable trip
but, and it is a bit of a big but: it has been some years since some of us were
in a canoe / kayak last, and I am not 100% sure all of us have been in one.
We are largely based in Ormskirk, so
where you appear to be looks like it might be ideal in terms of location if you
do taster sessions (so that if we decide it's a bad idea, we could bin the
idea). So - do you do taster sessions for canoes? Can we hire them from yourselves? How much training do you think a bunch of
novices would need for a trip like this? Etc? Any
advice would be much appreciated.
Hi, There was a
report from a trip along the
Two boat choices - straight line touring
kayaks (like the ones in the article above) or open canadian canoes. I would suggest a training day(s)
along the Leeds -
Why not come down to a beginners
session and find out more about the club or canoeing. There is no charge for
the coaching and all the paddling equipment is provided by the club. You may be
asked to pay a session fee for the hire of the pool or contribution to the
Club Venues and Training sessions
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
To Join the Club
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
What to wear to a beginners session
I am new to
the sport and would like to attend one of your coaching sessions. What should I
wear and bring?
The club provides all the paddling and safety equipment at beginner
sessions. If you are attending an indoor pool session you only need to bring a
towel and swimming costume. (some members wear a t
shirt).
If it is one of the outdoor venues you
will need:
Old trainers or similar to protect your feet
Shorts / swimming costume
Tee shirt
Thin jumper or top (if it is cold)
Track suit bottoms or similar (if it is cold)
Some kind of windproof (waterproof) top. Special canoeing cagoules are
available in canoe shops but any lightweight "golf" type jacket or
cagoule would do to start.
Towel.
Hi, Having
recently returned from a holiday in
The club runs numerous sessions in and
around
Club Venues and Training sessions
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
To Join the Club
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/admin/join.html
Hiya,
I have just had to give up rowing for my uni
as im in my final year and didn’t have the time they
required any more, but am lost without a hobby on the weekends and quite fancy
learning how to canoe. I was just wondering how I go about doing this? Could I arrange to come down sometime and see someone
or have a go?
I have forwarded your enquiry on to
several Key Members and hopefully they will get back to you individually to
invite you 
down to sessions that they attend.
You are more than welcome to come down to
any of the club sessions. However, now it has got colder the club has moved its
main coaching session indoors to Westminster Road Pool. All equipment is
included with the pool fee. - Wednesday night is the best night for beginners.
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
Can someone tell me in simple terms how to
get on the clubs message board through the google set
up?
First you have to join Liverpool Canoe
Club. You are then automatically added to the google
group.
In a few days after joining one of the
moderators will add you to the user list. When they have sent you confirmation email
you will receive all future club emails sent to the group and are free to send
emails yourself. You do this by sending ONE email to
LiverpoolCC@googlegroups.com which is then forwarded automatically to all
subscribed members. You can un-subscribe yourself at
any time. If you join google you can view the groups message board at http://groups.google.com/group/LiverpoolCC?hl=en
More information......
What is C-to-C Roll?
In a pure C-to-C roll, you sweep the paddle out to 90 degrees. At this
point, your body is twisted out to the side in a C shape with your paddle on
the surface of the water (a good, long torsoed C-to-C
roller can reach the paddle above the water and slap the surface). Then with a
powerful, smooth and single motion, you roll the hips going from a C pointing
to the right (left) to one pointing to the left (right). The final position
looks like a high brace. See our rolling pages.
I am confused about all the different
types of canoes. Is there a simple way of explaining it?
Try our pages on the different canoe and
kayak disciplines.
I would like to start canoeing. What is the best way to begin.
One of the best ways to start is
to go on a course. There are several teaching centres in Merseyside. Try Mersey
Watersports Centre in Kings Dock or Sefton Youth Service based at Crosby Marina. Alternatively
you join us and learn to paddle under the guidance of one of our many coaches.
Are there any other clubs in the
There are several local clubs, besides
ourselves who cater for beginners. Click here for details.
Can you tell me what a boof is?
This is from the glossary in Classic Northeastern Whitewater Guide:
The Best Whitewater Runs In New England and 
NewYork-Novice To Expert (1998) by Bruce Lessels, Appalachian Mountain Club 3rd edition, pg. 369:
BOOF-A technique used to run a steep drop that may be shallow at the base. By
leaning back and running the drop at an angle, the boater can land flat on the
hull with a resounding "BOOF!" and avoid pitoning
on the rocks at the bottom. Boofing drops higher than
about 10 feet can be hazardous to your spine.
Boofing is a whitewater paddling
maneuver for going over drops whereby the paddler
jumps over water hazards known as holes at the bottom. The two main components
are acceleration and a flat landing. One can boof a
waterfall in a direct fashion by speeding up and controlling the angle of the
boat so that it lands flat downstream, beyond the hole created by the
waterfall. One can also boof a rock in order to get a
better line, which entails bouncing off a low rock just before going over the
drop. Again, the objective is a flat landing beyond the water hazard. Such a
rock is often called a "boof rock".
Lean back and land flat on the hull making
a "boof" Sound