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Hi, I have recently joined the club with a family membership and I was wondering when it would be posible for us to get involved? Cheers,
Hi, You should have received a welcome email detailing information on how to paddle with the club. Your password will allow you to explore all of our site. If you and your family are total beginners then an introductory course would be best – the next one starts in September, Monday evening from 6:30pm (see our calendar) – 8 booked onto the course at the moment, let me know the names and ages of any of your family who wish to attend all four sessions.

If you have paddled before then you could just come down to any of our sessions – Tuesdays and Thursdays at the Marina – check the venues pages for maps etc.

Extract from welcome email
If you are a novice
then the best way to start would be to join one of our introductory courses which start on the first Monday of every month in the summer and continue for the following Mondays of that month (see the calendar for details and contact the coordinator for a place)

From October to April we use the Kingsway pool in Widnes. During the summer we paddle at the Liverpool Marina Harbourside Club (where the yachts are moored NOT Merseysport) on a Tuesday and Thursday evening from 6:30pm. A large number of kayaks are available at the pool and the docks for members to use. Details and location map via the venues page of the website. http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html

As you become more experienced you may wish to attend some of our trips. Please visit the venues pages or trips page to find out more. All club activities are published on the website. We also have various trips on a Wednesday Evening (Chester Weir, New Brighton, Bridgewater and Leeds & Liverpool Canal etc). There are also many trips on a weekend. Please see the calendar for the coordinator and details. Hope this helps,

Hi, I would like to get involved in the canoe club with my 2 daughters. I was wondering how much we have to pay per lesson and do we need an appointment or do we just turn up. Thanks
All lessons / sessions are free for members. However, if you are novices and have absolutely no experience of kayaking you will need to book onto a beginners introductory course. These run each month of the summer (normally for the first 4 Mondays from 6:30pm). The only exception is there is no course for August as most of the coaches are away on expeditions abroad. Once you have joined (£7.50 per year for a family) you have full access to the whole site and can book / register for the introductory course - this is totally free and we provide boats (opens and kayaks), paddles, buoyancy aids and helmets if required.

In addition we run monthly talks on a subject related to paddlesport, you also receive a monthly newsletter and have access to our online canoeing handbook and a wealth of information about the sport. As you gain experience you are able to join our many weekends and trips away. Again we have a loan system in place if you need to borrow boats and equipment. I hope this helps

Hi there, We were hoping to come along to the kayaking tonight at 19:00.....(2 people) As we are first timers is this the best time to go - if so do we need to register online first? Many thanks.
You would need to be members first and if you are beginners will need to join a beginners course before joining in with the club night sessions on a Tuesday and Thursday. There is one running in July for 3 weeks but this is currently over subscribed with 18 (needs 3 groups). You could add your name to the waiting list or sign up for the one in September. All club sessions start at 6:30pm with gates locked before 7:00pm with most on the water by 6:45pm. We then split into groups to paddle with more exprienced paddlers or club coaches as appropriate.


Hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good inflatable kayak as i am on a limited budget and have no roof rack and i want to give canoeing a try. Thanks

I have owned a Sevylor Tahiti for about 4 yrs and it is a very good starter inflatable. I have done 8 mile trips in it on canals and lakes, even out in sea surf and it will take 2 people and a good load carrier too. It's a lot better made than some cheaper beach toy boats, and you can get them at Outdoor World in Bootle now I think. You should be able to get one for around £119, but do get the optional skeg, and a decent paddle; it makes a great difference to the handling.
Article here:
http://www.shorebase.co.uk/boating/canoes/k79/k79.asp
There are better boats made by Stearns and Gumotex, but they are a LOT more expensive
Decathlon in Stockport also have inflatable’s and are reasonable regarding price. Unfortunately the cost goes up with better quality kayaks. Three or four members also have inflatable’s and might be able to offer advice on where to buy. As a member you are able to attend either our beginners courses or introductory sessions. We have two sit on tops which are similar to inflatable kayaks or you could try our open canoes or rigid kayaks. Our introductory course for July is now full, the next beginners one is in September. – see calendar for details on how to reserve a place.

I have joined the club but do not seem to get any of the googlegroup emails?
Hi, I am sorry that something has gone wrong. You should have been added automatically. I will add the email address you have just used to add you manually to the googlegroup after first checking your membership status. More information on how the googlegroup works........

EmailS requests to be added to the group to website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk

I am a new member with very little recent experience in a kayak although I did a fair bit 35 years ago. I have been to Pyranha today to have a look around before buying a Kayak. However when I asked the staff about paddling on the Bridgewater Canal and the fees involved, the said that there were none as canals are free so long as its just paddling and not a motorboat. Is this right please because somebody has told me that all Canals have a fee. I am interested in paddling on the Bridgewater and Sankey Valley Canal and the River Weaver. Do I need a licence thanks?

Officially you need a British Waterways licence to paddle on any canal. These are included if you join the BCU as a member (about £37 a year) or direct from British Waterways.

However, in practice you will never be asked for one if you put on locally so you should really just get on and paddle, keeping clear of any boats if they are moving or any fishermen etc. We often paddle on local canals as a club and have never been asked for a license.

The club uses the Liverpool Docks as home waters - we do pay a license for this to British Waterways but as a member you would be welcome at any of our sessions (formal and informal).

Hi, I was wondering if you could offer me some advice about getting into sea kayaking. My boyfriend and I are hoping to take up sea kayaking. We have been out with a friend who is a coach a few times for some taster sessions and we have been to Scotland for three days kayaking with a coach.

We are looking for a club to join where we can undertake some training towards obtaining the BCU star awards and where we can just go paddling on an evening or weekend. We are interested in doing the 2 star award and eventually the three star award. Could you let me know if this is possible for us to do at Liverpool Canoe Club and who the best person is for us to chat to about joining you? Thank you very much, Best Wishes,

Hi, As you may have noticed we are a very active sea kayaking club but also have other sections (general Coaching, polo, white water, surf etc)

Once you are a member you are able to attend any of our club sessions Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina and Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html or trips further afield depending upon your experience. However, you may be best joining our introductory course which starts on the first Tuesday of every month (runs for 4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment is available on a first come basis. If you are more experienced you could start at any session.

Our coaches offer courses and assessment - see our calendar for current courses (BCU paddle start, BCU 1, 2 and 3 star are on offer this summer) There is no charge for any of our coaching as the club is run by members for its members but there are fees payable direct to the governing body (BCU) to obtain certificates when you pass awards.

All details via the website http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/

Or direct links below:
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/Want%20to%20Start.html

Any of our experienced paddlers would be willing to give you advice, just come and have a coffee or drink with us after each paddling session at the marina bar at the yacht club.

Hello, I went along to Kingsway Leisure Centre last night hoping to get involved in your club night. Clearly this was a temporary session as I found out that it had ended some weeks ago. I just wondered if you would be returning to Widnes at all in the future. I live in Widnes and I'm interested in getting involved with the club but, looking at the calendar on your website, it looks like many of your quite far afield for me. Cheers
Hi, We paddle every Thursday during the winter (October to May) at the Kingsway Centre but at Liverpool docks during the summer months. Click on the venues tab / page for more details. We do return to Widnes on the first Thursday in October. http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html

Hi, Can you tell me whether my 10 year old is old enough to paddle with you, he has two older brothers who have been down to the dock and tried it and would like to join the club. He is very comfortable on water, and has been on sailing boats since he was very young. he is capable of operating a tender with outboard on his own (been doing it since he was 6) I spoke to Dom and he suggested I email you because he was not sure what the Club had decided was to be the minimum age. I work on a Sail training boat and fully understand the difficulties of accepting juniors and that there has to be a minimum age. Regards
Hi, We have no minimum age set as we are a family friendly club. As long as he paddles in a group with a coach or experienced paddler there is no problem and provided that we have a suitable buoyancy aid that fits well (or you may have your own). Parents or a similar adult MUST be present and contactable at all times (ie within the club or indeed on the water paddling). We have several families with children as young as 8 who paddle our junior boats. Everyone is welcome.

I have just joined the club and wonder what to do a a novice, do you have beginner lessons for people like me if so when and where is the next beginners lesson? If not do I start. Learning on my own and then join you, sorry just a bit confused at where to begin at the moment any advice would be appreciated.
Once you are a member you are able to attend any of our club sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina and Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html However, you may be best joining our introductory course which starts on the first Tuesday of every month (runs for 4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment is available on a first come basis. Please contact the coordinator for a place.

For further information try our HELP section on the site for Canoeing Q & A

Hi. I am looking to get back into kayaking after quite a long absence. I used to paddle a bit on lakes and flat water when I was a child. I was wondering how to go about getting back into the sport. Can I just attend a meet ? If so, which days are the meets currently held, and where ? I would like to also try to progress and achieve some sort of proficiency awards, such as the BCU star system. Do you guys offer this to members, and is there an additional charge for the training and BCU testing ? Thanks,
Hi , Sorry but I have been away on a club expedition to the islands off NW Scotland so apologies for the late reply but I have been out of phone range.
1/ Once you are a member you are able to attend any of our club sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays) from the Yacht Marina and Sailing Club from 6:30pm http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
However, you may be best joining our introductory course which starts on the first Tuesday of every month (runs for 4 sessions on a Tuesday). All equipment is available on a first come basis.

2/ Our coaches offer courses and assessment - see our calendar for current courses (BCU paddle start, BCU 1, 2 and 3 star are on offer this summer) There is no charge for any of our coaching as the club is run by members for its members but there are fees payable direct to the governing body (BCU) to obtain certificates when you pass awards.

Hi, Is the beginner's night still on this evening? Was thinking it may be called of because of the rain. Thanks
Hi ,Sorry but I have been away on a club expedition to the islands off NW Scotland so apologies for the late reply but have been out of phone range. The session last Tuesday would not have been cancelled for any reason as it is always safe to paddle in the docks. Coaches present on the night may change the area they work in to gain the most shelter. Hope to see you down this week.

Dear Sir
I wish to take up sea kayaking as a hobby and would desire advice and if possible training. I am 68 but v fit and and an excellent swimmer. I am a complete newbie!! Can you please contact me with any help you may have... Best wishes

Hi, As you may have noticed we are a very active sea kayaking club but also have other sections (general Coaching, polo, white water, surf etc)

We have beginner sessions starting every month for the first three Tuesdays based at the Sailing Club / Yacht Marina at Liverpool Docks. We have all the boats and equipment there and joining is extremely good value.

Membership is extremely good value at £5.00 per person or £7.50 for a family. You can join online and turn up at any of our beginners sessions (Tuesday and Thursdays at the same venue.) Here you will be allocated a coach and group for the evening. Probably the best way to start would be to join our introductory lessons which start on the first Tuesday of every month and continue for the following Tuesdays of that month (see the calendar for details)

All details via the website http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/

Or direct links below:
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/Want%20to%20Start.html

Hi there, Im a complete novice but would be interested in joining and learning more. I see you stae the membership fee for an adult is £5.00. Could you confirm is this for annual memebrship please? Also, is they an extra charge on top of this to take part in the weekly club session down in the docks. I understand they is a charge for the pool during the winter., Many thanks
Yes our yearly membership fee is really £5. There are no other costs required but club boats are on a first come basis on Tuesday and Thursdays. If you attend the docks sessions regularly you may wish to purchase an electronic swipe card to give you easier access to our equipment, the changing rooms and pontoons. This is a

My friend and I are planning a kayak run down the Manchester Canal and onto the Mersey via Warrington. We are unsure from our checks whether it is safe to portage on Albert Dock or nearby. We have no other reference, so could you you please let us know if you have any onformation regarding this?
I assume you mean the Manchester Ship Canal onto the River Mersey just above the M6. There are two weirs in Warrington, relatively easy to get around. Below Victoria Park in centre of Warrington the river is tidal but does not ebb for very long before it drys. There are several access points, Fiddlers ferry Sailing club have a slip way and there is also a steel ladder around the canal locks. The easiest get out is just before the Runcorn bridge – a slipway 100m on right hand side through a promenade building. Other stopping points are Liverpool Sailing club slipway by Speke airport. (Difficult car access unless you contact them)

Access at Liverpool Dock is difficult but there are two sets of steps and a slipway opposite coburg dock. By far the best get out point is on the Wirral side at the mouth of the Mersey at New Brighton Lighthouse. Stable sand and several public access slipways together with easy parking. There are also several stopping points / access slips on the Wallasey side before you right New Brighton. Google earth will enable you to spot these.

Be careful, as the tides from Runcorn down are very strong and can produce steep and difficult seas. With wind against tide, a confused, steep sea develops. The major hazard is being swept under piers or landing jetties – keep clear by along way as tide runs at 6+ knots on springs.

There are several maps etc on our trips pages but you will need to register for our free, web only membership to view these.

http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/members/Events/

Can you take me off your mailing list. How to unsubscribe yourself from LCC Google group
We do not actually have a mailing list but when you joined you were automatically added to our googlegroup to receive emails about club activities. Every email contains details on how to unsubscribe yourself from the group. You are always in full control, indeed, if you wish to delete all your membership details you can atn anytime by loggin in to your account via the website and selecting delete your club account and all details.
To unsubscribe from the googlegroup, just send an email to LiverpoolCC+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To log into your account:
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/cgi-bin/oc/manage.cgi

With the club going to paid membership does this mean I can`t go on any trips etc?

To give coordinators and coaches some degree of protection paid / full club members are covered by our BCU 3rd party liability insurance. It is only £5 a year to convert to full membership, incredibly good value. Click here for more information on how to do this......

However, if you have your own insurance and the coordinator is happy you are more than welcome to join us on the occasional trip. If you are paddling more than occasionally you should really be a full member. I hope this helps.

I have forgotten or Lost my Password for the site. Can it be renewed or reset?
To retrieve your password click here......... you will need to enter your email address OR your username and your login details will be emailed to you shortly.

Question on the CRB checks for BCU Coaches.
1/ My last one relates to another canoe club, the other one I have is from December 2005 for the Scout Association - do the Liverpool CC coaches need to get a new one for LCC through Dave R? 2/ Do all coaches need to do the online child protection module or is it just a "good to have"?

My understanding is that:
1/ All BCU coaches have to do one CRB check every three years via the BCU for all / any canoe club they work with. It is rumoured that a new agency may tie all CRB checks together eventually but at moment you need one for every different body you work with. Ie BCU, scouts, Education Authority etc

2/ Online module is useful but not essential??? ie it is not a requirement (yet) to valid coaching qualification

Hi I am looking in to renting a kayak for a few hours a week, do you offer renting and if not do you know where I can?
Sorry Michael, We do not rent out any canoes or kayaks. Our fleet is for use by members during club nights (Thursday at the pool in winter and Tuesday and Thursdays at the dock in the summer). You would be welcome to join the club and use our boats but this would be under the supervision of club coaches. Most other clubs and centres in the region operate in the same way. However, Brookbank canoes in Stockport sell new boats and do rent out specialist kayaks from time to time

Can anyone recommend somewhere that does replacment latex neck/wrist seals for a dry cag?
I always use Rubberman in North Wales. Some of the best quality replacement seals and returned in the post the same day
http://www.rubberman.co.uk/home.html

I have a little experience of paddling in both an open canoe and a kayak and hold a one star in kayaking that I gained a couple of years ago. I am looking to join a club where I would be able to train regularly to improve my standard and to increase my opportunities for getting out and about on the water, as well as hopefully getting to meet people with similar interests!! Please could you let me know how I join the Liverpool Club, where and when your sessions are that a sort-of beginner would be able to attend and how much it costs for membership, equipment hire (as I have none of my own) and session fees etc.

Joining is easy – just click the join tab on the website and join online. Remember to click on the email to verify it and follow the instructions. Membership fees are negligible as the members run the club for its members – only £5 per year.

We have a pool session in Widnes on Thursdays which is ideal for newcomers (20 boats and paddles etc available – pool fees to cover pool hire are £3.50 per session. From May to October we paddle on Tuesdays and Thursdays at Liverpool docks. Click on Venues pages of the site for maps and details or check our calendar. Boats and equipment are available for both these sessions an there is no charge for this as its included in your membership fee. We have a large number of coaches and many experienced paddlers to guide and help you.

Once you gain experience and have access to your own equipment we paddle every Wednesday throughout the summer at different spots (Leeds-Liverpool canal, Crosby Beach, New Brighton, River Weaver, Chester, Bridgewater Canal etc). Last weekend we had three trips out with over 30 people paddling. Weekend trips and more advanced trips go out every weekend. Just search our calendar for past trips or check out the archive of newsletters. We also publish a newsletter every month as members write trip reports and give general news about the club. This is typically 6-8 pages and contain a wealth of information.

Hope to see you at the pool or in the docks soon.

If you really can`t join online then I have attached our membership form but you will need Adobe reader to print it (Most computers have it already as its free software)


I looked on your website at the calender and was also just wondering whether it would be possible to do the Sunday trip if you don't have your own Kayak? Also the grading, is that a reference to the river or ability?
Hi, we have a policy that club boats and equipment are only available at club venues (the pool and Liverpool docks on a Tuesday and Thursday during the summer). If you want to paddle on the many trips then you need to have access to your own equipment and be able to transport it to the venues / rivers / sea etc.

The grading for river trips applies to the grade of water. Grade 1 is moving water with little hazards.

I'm keen to join and, in the first instance, learn capsize drill etc. Can I come to one of the scheduled sessions at Widnes Leisure Centre (having paid the membership fee) or do I have to wait until May for the Come and Try It session (I've done bits of canoeing over the years)?

We welcome new paddlers. The best session during the winter to make contact is the pool session on Thursdays. It is an 8 lane pool and we have a number of boats and paddles etc available. It is on a first come first served basis on the night and if we exceed 24 people on the water we ask for members to pair up and share the session.

Most wear swimwear and a t-shirt or similar. I collect the pool fees in the canteen in the main door and immediately on the left from 8:30pm We have 4 or five coaches on the night to help you get started.

Pool fees are: 1hr - £3.50, half hour - £1.50
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html

PS Membership is really excellent value at only £5 per year (£2.50 if under 18)


Hiya, i am interested in joining the club. I would like to join the group, i am a beginer, but would enjoy improving and going on trips.Please could you tell me where are you based? How often do you do day trips or weekend trips? How much is membership?
We are based at the Kingsway pool in Widnes during the winter - Thursday nights 8:30 til 10:00pm We have numerous coaches to help beginners and newcomers at the pool or the dock. From May til Sept we paddle in the Liverpool Docks from the Marina (the water by Merseysport and the Albert Dock - Tuesdays and Thursdays from 6:30pm. We have boats and paddles etc at both these venues. More info and maps etc via the website - click the venues pages.

If you look at the calendar on the main page or click the calendar tab you can see all our trips. Last summer we ran a trip on every Wednesday night at local venues (Last year it was Tuesdays but moves to Wednesdays this year)

We ran lots of trips at the weekends, on average at least two every weekend. For instance last Sunday a group paddled to Hilbre Island and another on the canal and river near Llangollen.

All information can be found via the website. We also issue a monthly newsletter (The latest newsletter is attached). All members are also added to the google email group to send and receive the latest trips and info about the club.

Membership fees are extremely low as we only aim to cover our costs. Adult £5 per year. The only other costs are pool hire fees of £3.50 per session at the Widnes pool.

You can join online via the website and pay securely via a card by clicking the join tab or the link below.
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html

Hope to see you on the water soon.

I registered as an associate member last year. Do I have to upgrade to keep my membership?
Our membership structure covers the relatively small costs involved with running the club (BCU affiliation, insurance, dock fees etc). You can now choose to upgrade your associate membership (if you have not already done so) to a Full Membership by following the example by clicking here… and paying safely online with a card. This is also available from the membership tab of the website.

Alternatively, if you do not intend to take advantage of a full membership, you can remain an associate member and keep in touch with the club via newsletters, the website and club related emails from our googlemail system. However to paddle with us or to have access to our members (and coordinators) contact details youn will need to upgrade to a full membership.

If you have any comments or need help with the change-over please contact us: website@liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk

Hi i did a 2 star kayak award when i was in the scouts about 10 years ago now but havent done any paddling since then. I was looking to get back into it but as you can imagine i cant really remember any thing. I was wondering if you could tell me the best way to or if you know of any beginner session around Liverpool or Merseyside that i would be able to attend. Look forward to hearing from you.
We start introductory sessions after Easter. The first course starts on the first Tuesday in May (6:30 till dark) see our calendar for details.

We also have pool sessions at the Kingsway pool in Widnes every Thursday throughout the winter months. Please see our venues page for maps and details or click on the sessions on the calendar.

Alternatively, Merseysport offer sessions for beginners and improvers http://www.merseysport.org.uk/

What types of Membership do you offer?
Adult
£5.00 An individual 18 or over
Family £7.50 Adult and Spouse or partner living together and their children under 18
Junior £2.50 Individual under 18 (Must have parent or guardian present at all times)
Coach Free Current (Updated) Coaches or Leadership Award holders (4 and 5 Star) with current First Aid

Associate member Free Web only member who keeps in contact with the club via newsletters and the website. You will need to upgrade your membership if you intend to paddle with us.
For more information click our Join page....

Is it possible to kayak from coast to coast (hull to Liverpool}? Aussie tourist
The Liverpool canal goes to Leeds and has been paddled regularly (20 or so locks to portage). The Leeds to Liverpool canal seems to join the River Humber via the Aire and Calder Navigation, and can then be paddled down to hull. Several routes are possible. British Waterways will be able to provide much more information.
http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/images/NatMpV11_tcm6-71387.pdf 1.2Mb
http://www.canaljunction.com/canal/leeds_liverpool.htm

L & Lpool canal runs into northern end of Liverpool city before turning right and dropping down through a series of locks into Stanley Dock. Then via a final lock into the river mersey.Unpowered craft such as canoes/kayaks are prohibited from using locks for safety reasons so it's not possible to paddle right to the river. Also I don't think there is any public access to Stanley dock so portaging to the river side is probably not on but British Waterways will be able to confirm position.

However, when the canal starts to descend, (at Eldonian Village, parallel to Vauxhall Road) you can see the river, approx 1Km away and you are about the same distance from city centre so it depends what you want.

A word of caution. A lot of effort and expense is being put into revitalising and upgrading the canal into Liverpool but as with all major industrialised cities we have run-down areas with social problems and there can be problems with vandalism, yobs etc on the Litherland and Bootle stretches. Also landscape is not the best. Things are improving but personally I wouldn't paddle further than Aintree unaccompanied. If you really want to complete the trip into Liverpool and you are a lone paddler let me know dates etc and we will try to help.

Otherwise if you just want to do a' coast to coast' trip you could take the Rufford branch off the L & Lpl. just before Burscough. The branch is 7 miles long, (6 locks) with 4 almost at the start. It runs through fertile farmland to the Ribble estuary at Tarleton where it locks down into the river. Burscough is 24 miles from the Liverpool terminus so finishing your trip atTarleton would reduce the overall distance by 17 miles. Hope this helps. Best Wishes Frank Vaughan

Is there any problem with using the bow seat as the stern seat when I paddle alone? Using the bow seat gives the canoe a better trim. The other alternative is to place ballast in the bow. I weigh in at 240. see the problem when I am way back in the stern seat?

No, it is common practise to use the bow seat when paddling solo (boat hull should be symmetrical). As you progress you may try a kneeling position near the central thwart to gain even better trim.

My 10yr old son and I recently passed a one star Kayak course; we would both like to continue to improve over the winter period. We live about 15 minutes from Speke and are both interested in your pool sessions on a Wednesday night. If we joined and attended your pool lessons, would we be in the same class at the same time, and at which level? Our instructor classed us as good one star paddles?
We do not run formal classes - we are a kayaking club and individuals book an hour of pool time in which to practice their skills. Coaches are available both in the water and around the sides to advise, help and coach. The sessions are less formal and more club orientated and allow club members to progress as quickly as possible. Both you and your son will / could be on the water at the same time.
If you are in any doubt as to our structure please pop down and either chat to us or watch from the viewing gallery. Please note that we are a very large club (250 members) but do strive to treat people as individuals and we try to give newcomers the time / information that they need. However, please bear with us as the first week is likely to be very busy and hectic

Where is the nearest kayak shop?
Try our website `For sale` page. Kayaks North West is the shop outside the Pyranha factory http://pyranha.com/  Kayaks NW have a reduced / clearance clothing sale up the spiral stairs in the shop and is often missed by customers.
Kayaks North West Discount Scheme.
Marina Village
Preston Brook
Runcorn WA7 3DW
Phone: 01928710770
Email: mattbostock@pyranha.com

15% off for members of Liverpool Canoe Club.

Other good shops include: http://www.eddyonlines.co.uk/ in Llangollen and http://www.brookbankcanoes.co.uk/ in Stockport  All sell second hand boats or ex-demo boats.

I am an 44 year old officer within the Boys Bridage organisation, have paddled on an off since I was around 10 years old. I've had no formal canoe training (though, class myself an reasonably proficient and can role) and would like to work for coach certificates. Is this something that LCC can help me with or can you suggest another organisation that would be better suited?
We currently have 16 club members working towards their Level 1 / 2 coaching award. The club regularly runs coaching sessions where trainee coaches work alongside established coaches to gain experience and log the hours required before assessment. We are planning to run a L2 coach training course in April with an assessment at the end of the summer. Last September we ran a course for the canoe safety test and will run a 3 star assessment before the L2 training course in April. We currently have a pool session at Speke pool, 7-10pm. Why not come down and introduce yourself or if you have joined the club (joining forms from www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk - Membership for the year costs £15-£17) why not have a go.

Hi, "Re:If you would like to attend a course Level 2 Training (Kayak) BCU NW Region COACHING SCHEME 10/11 September"
Just a few quick questions:
1. where will this course be held?
2. how much will it cost to LCC members?
3. what if people are strong paddlers but need to take 3* first?


It would be advisable to contact the organiser direct to find out the exact location and details. Courses are cancelled if there is not enough interest! It will be held in the Manchester / Bolton / Merseyside area.

Discussion is under way re:subsidising LCC members undertaking coaching courses. I will try and clarify how much at the next coaching meeting on the 11th Aug (Why not come along as you are a potential coach). If there is enough interest the club could hold its own L1 / L2 courses.

3* and CST etc can be assessed during normal club evenings. Just ask to be assessed by myself or any coach with assessor status.
How to become a Level 1 or 2 Coach 
 LEVEL 1 COACH (Pre-requisites for 1 day assessment)  LEVEL 2 COACH (Pre-requisites for 2 day training / 1 day assessment)
 Be 16+ if working within LCC  Be 16 for the Training Course or 18 years old for assessment
 Be a Nat Assc (BCU) member or pay £15  Be a Nat Assc (BCU) member
  2 Star Test  3 Star Test
 Canoeing Safety Test  Canoeing Safety Test
 Current First Aid Cert (min 4hr award)  Current First Aid (min 4hr )


I have recently returned from a short trip in the Scottish highlands, and among the group of us, the idea of canoeing the Caledonian Canal came up - this looked like it should be both a memorable and enjoyable trip but, and it is a bit of a big but: it has been some years since some of us were in a canoe / kayak last, and I am not 100% sure all of us have been in one.
We are largely based in Ormskirk, so where you appear to be looks like it might be ideal in terms of location if you do taster sessions (so that if we decide it's a bad idea, we could bin the idea). So - do you do taster sessions for canoes? Can we hire them from yourselves? How much training do you think a bunch of novices would need for a trip like this? Etc? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Hi, There was a report from a trip along the Calendonian Canal made by some of our members. It is on the website. www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk >>Newsletters >> May 2005. The trip is fairly straight forward, if you chose suitable canoes and take care of the storage of spare clothes / food / camping equipment etc you could do it almost immediately. You need good weather / care when crossing the big lochs as you are relatively inexperienced but you should be fine if you keep close to the shore.

Two boat choices - straight line touring kayaks (like the ones in the article above) or open canadian canoes. I would suggest a training day(s) along the Leeds - Liverpool canal before you went to familiarise yourselves with the equipment. The club does not really have this type of canoe, most of our boats are shorter white water or training boats. It is unlikely that we would let out the canadian canoes to "brand new members". However, many commercial companies hire out canoes - the web is full of them (try brookbank canoes, they hire out equipment including plastic touring kayaks http://www.brookbankcanoes.co.uk/) or Caledonian Activity Breaks based in Fort William (they also do a pick-up and recovery service!). Also Loch Morar Activities.

Why not come down to a beginners session and find out more about the club or canoeing. There is no charge for the coaching and all the paddling equipment is provided by the club. You may be asked to pay a session fee for the hire of the pool or contribution to the Marina or Dock license (£3 per session or £40 for the year). After a couple of sessions you will be expected to join the canoe club.

Club Venues and Training sessions
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
To Join the Club
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html
What to wear to a beginners session
What to wear

I am new to the sport and would like to attend one of your coaching sessions. What should I wear and bring?
The club provides all the paddling and safety equipment at beginner sessions. If you are attending an indoor pool session you only need to bring a towel and swimming costume. If it is one of the outdoor venues you will need:
Old trainers or similar to protect your feet
Shorts / swimming costume
Tee shirt
Thin jumper or top (if it is cold)
Track suit bottoms or similar (if it is cold)
Some kind of windproof (waterproof) top. Special canoeing cagoules are available in canoe shops but any lightweight "golf" type jacket or cagoule would do to start.
Towel.

Hi, Having recently returned from a holiday in Canada where I had the opportunity to give kayaking a try, I am now interested in taking up the sport as a regular sport/hobby. I would also be particularly interested in pursuing white water canoeing at some point in the future. Would you be able to provide me with any information about beginner training sessions, courses or training that your club offers, and which days and locations in Liverpool that these courses would be available.
The club runs numerous sessions in and around Liverpool. These mainly run over the summer months. Contact the coordinator to see if there is a place. You MUST be a member before your paddle. See the club calendar for details of some of the events we are involved in. The club always welcomes new, active members but you will need to borrow / have your own equipment unless you are attending a pool session where a limited number of boats and paddles are available.
Club Venues and Training sessions
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html
To Join the Club
http://liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/join.html

Hiya,
I have just had to give up rowing for my uni as im in my final year and didnt have the time they required any more, but am lost without a hobby on the weekends and quite fancy learning how to canoe. I was just wondering how I go about doing this? Could I arrange to come down sometime and see someone or have a go?

I have forwarded your enquiry on to several Key Members and hopefully they will get back to you individually to invite you down to sessions that they attend.
You are more than welcome to come down to any of the club sessions. However, now it has got colder the club has moved its main coaching session indoors to Westminster Road Pool. All equipment is included with the pool fee. - Wednesday night is the best night for beginners.
http://www.liverpoolcanoeclub.co.uk/venues/venues.html


Can someone tell me in simple terms how to get on the clubs message board through the google set up?
First you have to join Liverpool Canoe Club. You are then automatically added to the google group.

 

In a few days after joining one of the moderators will add you to the user list. When they have sent you confirmation email you will receive all future club emails sent to the group and are free to send emails yourself. You do this by sending ONE email to LiverpoolCC@googlegroups.com which is then forwarded automatically to all subscribed members. You can un-subscribe yourself at any time. If you join google you can view the groups message board at http://groups.google.com/group/LiverpoolCC?hl=en

More information......



What is C-to-C Roll?
In a pure C-to-C roll, you sweep the paddle out to 90 degrees. At this point, your body is twisted out to the side in a C shape with your paddle on the surface of the water (a good, long torsoed C-to-C roller can reach the paddle above the water and slap the surface). Then with a powerful, smooth and single motion, you roll the hips going from a C pointing to the right (left) to one pointing to the left (right). The final position looks like a high brace. See our rolling pages.

I am confused about all the different types of canoes. Is there a simple way of explaining it?
Try our pages on the different canoe and kayak disciplines.

I would like to start canoeing. What is the best way to begin.
One of the best ways to start is to go on a course. There are several teaching centres in Merseyside. Try Mersey Watersports Centre in Kings Dock or Sefton Youth Service based at Crosby Marina. Alternatively you join us and learn to paddle under the guidance of one of our many coaches.

Are there any other clubs in the Liverpool area that offer coaching?
There are several local clubs, besides ourselves who cater for beginners. Click here for details.

Can you tell me what a boof is?

This is from the glossary in Classic Northeastern Whitewater Guide: The Best Whitewater Runs In New England and NewYork-Novice To Expert (1998) by Bruce Lessels, Appalachian Mountain Club 3rd edition, pg. 369: BOOF-A technique used to run a steep drop that may be shallow at the base. By leaning back and running the drop at an angle, the boater can land flat on the hull with a resounding "BOOF!" and avoid pitoning on the rocks at the bottom. Boofing drops higher than about 10 feet can be hazardous to your spine.

Boofing is a whitewater paddling maneuver for going over drops whereby the paddler jumps over water hazards known as holes at the bottom. The two main components are acceleration and a flat landing. One can boof a waterfall in a direct fashion by speeding up and controlling the angle of the boat so that it lands flat downstream, beyond the hole created by the waterfall. One can also boof a rock in order to get a better line, which entails bouncing off a low rock just before going over the drop. Again, the objective is a flat landing beyond the water hazard. Such a rock is often called a "boof rock".

Lean back and land flat on the hull making a "boof" Sound